Showing posts with label point guards. Show all posts
Showing posts with label point guards. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 2, 2011

Deron Williams and Devin Harris - Performance Comparison

After putting together the 2010-11 performance comparison between Chauncey Billups and Raymond Felton I thought it would be interesting to compare some of the other point guards who were involved in trades.

Next up are Deron Williams and Devin Harris.  I was shocked by the abruptness of Utah's trade of Williams.  I certainly consider Williams to be one of the best point guards in the NBA.  While he was only sixth in my midseason point guard rankings for 2010-11, he was first in my 2009-10 full season point guard rankings.  However, I do think that the Jazz got a lot of value out of the trade.

I didn't expect the stats of Williams and Harris to be competitive, but I was curious to see how far apart they were.  Here's what the key statistics look like:


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StatisticDeron WilliamsDevin Harris
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MPG37.931.9
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PER21.9817.92
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EWA11.46.1
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True S%58.254.3
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3FG%33.630.2
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Ast/369.48.6
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Tur/363.33.3
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ORtg115108
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DRtg112111
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Opp PER14.918.3
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On Ct/480.8-5.9
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Off Ct/487.7-8

Not surprisingly there is a rather large gap between the performances of Williams and Harris so far this season.  Williams is more than four points better in PER and has contributed five more wins than Harris has in 2010-11.

The only stat lines where Harris can compete with Williams are turnovers per 36 minutes and Defensive Rating.  However, when it comes to defense Williams is much better in Opponent's PER than Harris.

For the Nets the final grade on the trade for Deron Williams will come down to whether they are able to sign him to a contract extension.  I give them a lot of credit for having the courage to make this type of trade.  For the most part the writing is on the wall - a franchise will not win an NBA title in the near future without top flight superstars.  New Jersey decided the opportunity to add one of the best point guards in the game was worth the risk.

Thursday, February 24, 2011

Chauncey Billups and Raymond Felton - Performance Comparison

The huge trade between the Knicks, Nuggets and Timberwolves that sent Carmelo Anthony to New York is now official.  While clearly the big headline is Carmelo getting the outcome he always wanted and the question of whether he can help make the Knicks a championship contender, one of the more interesting angles to me is the swap of Chauncey Billups and Raymond Felton.

Let's compare the performance of Billups and Felton so far this season and look at what Billups will bring to the Knicks that Felton did not.

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StatisticChauncey BillupsRaymond Felton
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MPG32.338.4
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PER18.817.34
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EWA6.46.5
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True S%63.452.4
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3FG%44.132.8
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Ast/365.98.5
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Tur/362.83.1
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ORtg120108
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DRtg112111
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Opp PER17.617.6
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On Ct/483.6-0.2
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Off Ct/482.35

When you look at the statistics above you see that there has not been a large gap between the production levels of Billups and Felton.  Billups has a nice lead in PER at 18.8 to Felton's 17.34, but because of the advantage Felton has in minutes played his Estimated Wins Added of 6.5 beats out Billups by a whisker.

Billups has a huge edge in offensive efficiency with an Offensive Rating of 120 points per 100 possessions compared to Felton's 108.  The on court and off court differential numbers are also to Billups' advantage.

But the biggest thing Billups brings to the Knicks that Felton had trouble delivering is outside shooting.  Billups' True Shooting Percentage is 63.4 and he's knocking down 44.1% of his shots from behind the arc.  Felton has struggled from distance, making only 32.8% of his three-pointers.  He started out good, hitting right around 36% on threes in the first month of the season, but perhaps the high number of minutes he's been playing wore him down.

From a statistical standpoint Billups brings an outside shooting element to the point guard position that wasn't there when Felton was manning the helm  for the Knicks.  But, New York may very well have lost some ability in the playmaking department.  Ultimately I think Billups is a nice upgrade at the point because of his shooting, leadership and experience.  Let's not forget, "Mr. Big Shot" is an NBA Finals MVP.

Saturday, January 22, 2011

2010-11 Mid-Season NBA Point Guard Rankings

It's been a great year so far for point guards in the NBA. Just try to pick one to start on the Western Conference All Star team. You've got Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook and Tony Parker who are all having spectacular seasons.

Who's leading the NBA point guard pack in production? The answer is below. You can find my ranking process on my 2010-11 Mid-Season NBA Small Forward Rankings post.  And, if you are interested, Deron Williams was the top-rated point guard for the 2009-10 season.

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PLAYERPERRankEWARankSimpleRankO Rat.RankD. RatRankTotals Final Rank
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Chris Paul, NO25.55111112.52125199161
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Derrick Rose, CHI23.1359.447.14111171024342
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Tony Parker, SA20.9766.9647114121059403
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Rajon Rondo, BOS19.684.8993110211002434
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Andre Miller, POR19.0795.576.851121410722575
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Deron Williams, UTAH23.4449.924.16120311146616
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Russell Westbrook, OKC24.1529.922.9121102110828657
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Steve Nash, PHX24.0238.1515.81123211664758
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Stephen Curry, GS19.7474.7103.581121411146859
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George Hill, SA14.53341.8323.311116710599310
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Shannon Brown, LAL16.66232.3293.5811117106169310
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Jose Calderon, TOR17.95123.7162.4131167112519912
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D.J. Augustin, CHA16.69223.9130.82411951103910313
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Jameer Nelson, ORL16.09252.922-13411214105910414
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Lou Williams, PHI17.58142.9223.410108271093210515
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Beno Udrih, SAC16.95173.913-0.83312031103910515
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Chauncey Billups, DEN17.46163.8150.82411671114610817
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Rodney Stuckey, DET18.31104.3121.619111171125110918
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Devin Harris, NJ18.15114.411122107301103911319
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Jason Kidd, DAL14.75332.6261.91610435103611620
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Jrue Holiday, PHI15.92273.5171.121104351061611620
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Mike Conley, MEM15.5303.3181.916107301072211620
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Earl Boykins, MIL16.8191.43512210534105911923
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Darren Collison, IND16.77203.119-134107301061611923
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Ty Lawson, DEN16.74212.824215115111125112225
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Raymond Felton, NY17.75135.38-134109241114612526
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Brandon Jennings, MIL16.89182.626-1.53910337104712727
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Kyle Lowry, HOU15.24312.7251.220110211093212928
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Luke Ridnour, MIN16.26243200.12811861135413229
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Eddie House, MIA13.33380.542-3.2481167104714230
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Ramon Sessions, CLE17.56153200.726108271145814631
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Daniel Gibson, CLE15.08322312.413109241135415432
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Mike Bibby, ATL12.45430.939-0.532113131082815533
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Gary Neal, SA13.05410.840-2.544109241061616534
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Tyreke Evans, SAC14.28352.130-0.13096541072217135
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Baron Davis, LAC15.61291.733-346102401093218036
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John Wall, WSH15.72282.428-2.94599501093218337
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Gilbert Arenas, ORL12.91421380.12995541072218538
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Aaron Brooks, HOU16.02261.236-243108271135418639
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Earl Watson, UTAH11.35510.1501.718102401082818740
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Patrick Mills, POR13.32390.5420.427102401103918740
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Shaun Livingston, CHA11.5500.246-0.23199501061619342
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Mario Chalmers, MIA10.5753-0.254-3.14710240102419843
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Jordan Farmar, NJ13.32391.137-1.237100471103919944
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Carlos Arroyo, MIA10.3957-0.356-451111171072220345
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Eric Maynor, OKC11.8460.246-1.640103371103920846
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C.J. Watson, CHI10.4656-0.254-1.4389260101321147
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Jarrett Jack, NO11.95450.444-4.35496541061621348
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Jerryd Bayless, TOR13.5370.840-3.549107301145821449
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Derek Fisher, LAL9.3160-163-4.55610337105922550
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Nate Robinson, BOS10.952052-7.6629950105922550
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T.J. Ford, IND10.1558-0.356-3.6509260105923352
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Jose Juan Barea, DAL11.54480.246-4.35497531093223352
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Eugene Jeter, SAC11.52490.150-1.942100471114623454
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Mo Williams, CLE13.99361.534-4.25296541145823454
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Will Bynum, DET11.97440.246-4.252102401135423656
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Ronnie Price, UTAH7.861-0.860-1.84191631082825357
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Eric Bledsoe, LAC10.555-0.356-5.15794591093225958
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Steve Blake, LAL7.662-1.465-8.864102401093226359
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Goran Dragic, PHX11.74470.345-7.46195541145826560
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Ishmael Smith, HOU9.3259-0.356-6.55992601103927361
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Chris Duhon, ORL6.1664-1.164-6.66090641072227462
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Sebastian Telfair, MIN10.5254-0.153-5.558101471156227462
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Acie Law, GS6.7263-0.860-8.263102401166429064
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Jonny Flynn, MIN4.7765-0.962-10.26580651156231965

I'll be posting my observations on this list in the next couple of days. Let me know your thoughts on the list by posting a comment below.

Monday, July 19, 2010

NBA Shooting Guards 2010 - Cumulative Rankings

The results of my cumulative rankings for NBA shooting guards were a definite surprise.  I did not expect Manu Ginobili to top the charts.  Dwayne Wade was pretty close to him but Ginobili's #3 Offensive Rating compared to Wade's #12 ranking in that category made the difference. 

(I've previously posted the full details on the ranking system, as well as the 2010 NBA Point Guard Rankings.)

Here's what the rankings of NBA shooting guards looks like for the 2009-2010 season, with their cumulative totals included for differentiation:

  1. Manu Ginobili, SAS 13
  2. Dwyane Wade, MIA 17
  3. Kobe Bryant, LAL 40
  4. Brandon Roy, POR 51
  5. Vince Carter, ORL 54
  6. Ray Allen, BOS 70
  7. Joe Johnson, ATL 70
  8. John Salmons, MIL 75
  9. Rodrigue Beaubois, DAL 79
  10. Jamal Crawford, ATL 80
  11. Jason Richardson, PHO 81
  12. Kevin Martin, HOU 94
  13. Andre Iguodala, PHI 95
  14. Jason Terry, DAL 95
  15. Stephen Jackson, CHA 98
  16. Kyle Korver, UTH 98
  17. James Harden, OKC 100
  18. Quentin Richardson, MIA 103
  19. J.J. Redick, ORL 107
  20. Marcus Thornton, NOR 119
  21. Delonte West, CLE 121
  22. J.R. Smith, DEN 131
  23. Mike Miller, WAS 133
  24. Rudy Fernandez, POR 143
  25. Tony Allen, BOS 148
  26. A.J. Price, IND 153
  27. Anthony Morrow, GSW 154
  28. O.J. Mayo, MEM 155
  29. Bill Walker, NYK 155
  30. Toney Douglas, NYK 161
  31. Wesley Matthews, UTH 169
  32. Ronnie Brewer, MEM 174
  33. Eric Gordon, LAC 177
  34. Leandro Barbosa, PHO 186
  35. Sasha Vujacic, LAL 191
  36. Marco Belinelli, TOR 193
  37. Monta Ellis, GSW 193
  38. Anthony Parker, CLE 195
  39. Kirk Hinrich, CHI 198
  40. Richard Hamilton, DET 199
  41. Francisco Garcia, SAC 200
  42. Courtney Lee, NJN 202
  43. Thabo Sefolosha, OKS 213
  44. Randy Foye, WAS 217
  45. Jerry Stackhouse, MIL 218
  46. Allen Iverson, PHI 219
  47. Ben Gordon, DET 219
  48. Arron Afflalo, DEN 220
  49. Keyon Dooling, NJN 222
  50. Larry Hughes, CHA 222
  51. Luther Head, IND 231
  52. Willie Green, PHI 234
  53. Sonny Weems, TOR 239
  54. Ronald Murray, CHI 246
  55. Marquis Daniels, BOS 249
  56. Tracy McGrady, NYK 251
  57. Jodie Meeks, PHI 252
  58. Sam Young, MEM 253
  59. Joey Graham, DEN 254
  60. DeMar DeRozan, TOR 260
  61. Keith Bogans, SAS 260
  62. Rasual Butler, LAC 262
  63. Nick Young, WAS 263
  64. Dahntay Jones, IND 269
  65. Roger Mason, SAS 269
  66. Corey Brewer, MIN 270
  67. Charlie Bell, GSW 275
  68. Brandon Rush, IND 276
  69. Daequan Cook, MIA 284
  70. Devin Brown, NOH 285
  71. Wayne Ellington, MIN 295
  72. Morris Peterson, NOR 302
  73. DeShawn Stevenson, DAL 341
Like I did with the point guards, I'll be posting my thoughts on the rankings in a couple of days.  Let me know what you think by posting a comment below.

Sunday, July 18, 2010

NBA Point Guards 2010 Rankings Analysis

Yesterday I posted the cumulative rankings of NBA point guards based on their play last season using the combination of five different statistical evaluations.  Today I'll share my thoughts on the data.
  • There are clear differences between the levels of point guard quality.  The top levels seem to come in groups of four to five.  For instance, based on the cumulative numbers, Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul and Jason Kidd are clearly at the top level.  Chauncey Billups, Andre Miller, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook and Luke Ridnour make up the second level.  Raymond Felton, Derrick Rose, Lou Williams and Baron Davis make up the third level.  After that they are bunched up much more.
  • Rondo didn't seem to get a lot of notice until the playoffs, but it's clear from these rankings that he deserved it for his excellent regular season.  I was surprised that he finished just one point below Deron Williams.
  • Other guys that surprised me with how high they are ranked - Luke Ridnour, Lou Williams, Ty Lawson, Jason Williams, Kyle Lowry and George Hill.
  • I was surprised at how low these players ranked - Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, Tony Parker, Brandon Jennings and Darren Collison.  In fairness to Evans, Jennings and Collison, it was their rookie season.
  • Deron Williams did not rank first in any of the five evaluation methods but still ranked first overall.  Rondo ranked first in both the Defensive Rating and WARP.  Paul was first in PER and Offensive Rating, but hurt by his 28th ranking in the Defensive Rating.  Nash was first in the Simple Rating and second in PER, Offensive Rating and WARP, but his 62nd ranking in Defensive Rating hurt him.
  • I know the Timberwolves already have too many point guards, but their signing of Luke Ridnour could be the steal of free agency.  To get the ninth ranked point guard in the NBA for $16 million over four years is a great deal.  How that affects Johnny Flynn will be very interesting to watch.
  • Right now it looks like the Bobcats are taking a real chance at the point.  D.J. Augustin did not have a good year and they lost Raymond Felton, who can probably be labeled as underappreciated based on his #10 ranking.  They also seem to be relying a lot on the hope that newly signed backup Shaun Livingston will start reaching his potential.
What player rankings surprise you the most?

Saturday, July 17, 2010

NBA Point Guards 2010 - Cumulative Rankings

First, welcome to Behind the Arc.  As you might guess the focus here is basketball.  Initially I plan to heavily cover the NBA, with some college hoops as well.  But that is subject to change.

For my first project I have been researching all of the different methods for evaluating NBA players.  There are a number of statistical approaches that very intelligent basketball experts have put together.  I pulled together multiple evaluations that I think help to paint the picture.  They include:
I looked at player performance from the 2009-2010 regular season and pulled the evaluations in those five categories.  I then ranked them based on those numbers and added up the rankings to get a total rank with lower numbers being better than higher numbers.

Here are the point guard rankings (500+ minutes played) with their cumulative totals included for differentiation:
  1. Deron Williams, Utah 31
  2. Rajon Rondo, BOS 32
  3. Chris Paul, NOR 38
  4. Jason Kidd, DAL 41
  5. Chauncey Billups, DEN 60
  6. Andre Miller, POR 64
  7. Steve Nash, PHO 69
  8. Russell Westbrook, OKC 70
  9. Luke Ridnour, MIL 70
  10. Raymond Felton, CHA 84
  11. Derrick Rose, CHI 87
  12. Lou Williams, PHI 90
  13. Baron Davis, LAC 95
  14. Tyreke Evans, SAC 102
  15. Ty Lawson, DEN 103
  16. Mo Williams, CLE 106
  17. Kyle Lowry, HOU 109
  18. Jameer Nelson, ORL 109
  19. George Hill, SAS 110
  20. Tony Parker, SAS 119
  21. Jason Williams, ORL 127
  22. Stephen Curry, GSW 128
  23. Gilbert Arenas, WAS 129
  24. Brandon Jennings, MIL 129
  25. Beno Udrih, SAC 130
  26. Jarrett Jack, TOR 138
  27. Aaron Brooks, HOU 142
  28. Jose Calderon, TOR 144
  29. Rodney Stuckey, DET 154
  30. C.J. Watson, GSW 154
  31. Darren Collison, NOR 155
  32. Mike Bibby, ATL 156
  33. Carlos Arroyo, MIA 156
  34. Nate Robinson, BOS 159
  35. Mike Conley, MEM 167
  36. Goran Dragic, PHO 169
  37. Daniel Gibson, CLE 171
  38. Devin Harris, NJN 173
  39. Jerryd Bayless, POR 180
  40. Sergio Rodriguez, NYK 183
  41. Eric Maynor, OKC 187
  42. Jordan Farmar, LAL 189
  43. Shannon Brown, LAL 196
  44. T.J. Ford, IND 197
  45. Shaun Livingston, WAS 200
  46. D.J. Augustin, CHA 204
  47. Earl Watson, IND 207
  48. Mario Chalmers, MIA 213
  49. Ramon Sessions, MIN 215
  50. Derek Fisher, LAL 218
  51. Jose Juan Barea, DAL 225
  52. Will Bynum, DET 227
  53. Jrue Holiday, PHI 233
  54. Steve Blake, POR 240
  55. Ronnie Price, UTH 242
  56. Jeff Teague, ATL 243
  57. Anthony Carter, DEN 251
  58. Earl Boykins, WAS 252
  59. Chris Duhon, NYK 254
  60. Jannero Pargo, CHI 270
  61. Jonny Flynn, MIN 270
  62. Eddie House, NYK 273
  63. Jamaal Tinsley, MEM 278
  64. Sebastian Telfair, LAC 279
  65. Marcus Williams, MEM 293
  66. Rafer Alston, MIA 295
  67. Chucky Atkins, DET 303
  68. Bobby Brown, LAC 315
In the next few days I will post my analysis of the rankings, including some thoughts on surprises.  I'll also be posting the rankings for the other four positions, as well as the overall rankings.  In the mean time, please share your thoughts in the comments section below.